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Mrdavid6623 65M
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6/4/2018 7:08 am

And the earth is flat too, damnit!


IAmMichaelURKnot 62M
14380 posts
6/4/2018 7:37 am

Nice attempt to conflate and deflect. Current technology is more susceptible to radiation damage than was the technology available during the Apollo missions. The Apollo moon landings conspiracy theory crumbles under the weight of scientific knowledge ( even as it was known during the 1960s - 1970s ).

From Wikipedia entry "Van Allen radiation belt" - section "Implications for space travel" :

Spacecraft travelling beyond low Earth orbit enter the zone of radiation of the Van Allen belts. Beyond the belts, they face additional hazards from cosmic rays and solar particle events. A region between the inner and outer Van Allen belts lies at two to four Earth radii and is sometimes referred to as the "safe zone".

Solar cells, integrated circuits, and sensors can be damaged by radiation. Geomagnetic storms occasionally damage electronic components on spacecraft. Miniaturization and digitization of electronics and logic circuits have made satellites more vulnerable to radiation, as the total electric charge in these circuits is now small enough so as to be comparable with the charge of incoming ions. Electronics on satellites must be hardened against radiation to operate reliably. The Hubble Space Telescope, among other satellites, often has its sensors turned off when passing through regions of intense radiation. A satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminium in an elliptic orbit (200 by 20,000 miles (320 by 32,190 km)) passing the radiation belts will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year (for comparison, a full-body dose of 5 Sv is deadly). Almost all radiation will be received while passing the inner belt.

The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts, which was one of several radiation hazards known by mission planners. The astronauts had low exposure in the Van Allen belts due to the short period of time spent flying through them. Apollo flight trajectories bypassed the inner belts completely, and only passed through the thinner areas of the outer belts.

Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field. The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.

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IAmMichaelURKnot 62M
14380 posts
6/4/2018 10:38 am

VladVampireLord replies on 6/4/2018 12:54 pm:
So use 1970s technology to go back to the moon if the Van Allen Belts are not a problem bypassing, we still use old technology in our military. Fly back the old way the same way. Send more men to the moon. Still nobody has done it. NOBODY.

B-52 bomber (1950s). F-16 fighter (1970s). B-1 Bomber (1970s).

We can still produce old technology. I even have an old computer from 1979 I will donate to mission control if needed. It does a great job of printing "HELLO" to the screen.

Nice try Mike Knot.

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We already accomplished manned moon landings. Incontrovertible proof exists. You might need to remove your sunglasses (and your combination tinfoil sword / hat) in order to see.

There is no need to keep doing the same thing over and over. We've moved on. We now send unmanned missions to other celestial bodies. We send probes beyond the Solar System.

Welcome to the 21st Century - where a single distant star can outshine all the sparkly vampire conspiracy theories combined.

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IAmMichaelURKnot 62M
14380 posts
6/4/2018 11:06 am

VladVampireLord replies on 6/4/2018 1:52 pm:
We have not colonized the moon or mined it for minerals. We do not have a moon base or even a penal colony on the moon. Or a vacation resort either.

That is as if Columbus reached the Americas and turned around proving he did it and never came back. Which actually would have been preferable for native Americans.

Since getting to the moon is so easy peasy using old technology why haven't powers such as China, Russia, France, the United Kingdom, etc. tried a moon landing since they have ICBMs and old computers laying around?

Hmmm?

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Remember the Space Race? The USSR wanted to be first in order to prove the superiority of its political / economic system. After its initial early successes, the USSR failed in its attempts to outspend / outpace the US.

As for the other nations you mention: They are unwilling to expend the vast resources necessary to claim second place decades after the US littered the Lunar landscape with scrap metal and plastic.

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IAmMichaelURKnot 62M
14380 posts
6/4/2018 11:17 am

VladVampireLord replies on 6/4/2018 1:54 pm:
And my sword is mondo cool. I have a collection, but I do not want to seem a bigger psycho than I already do and display them.

Swords!

Alas.

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I doubt that many people can conceive of you as being a bigger psycho than you are. ( You're welcome. )

Just be you, Vlad.

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